Small Schools by Design: Why Size, Relationships and Culture Beat Scale
15 May 2026 · 78 min · as at 2026-05-15
Gershom Aitchison (host) · Christian Convence (guest) · Paola Stella (audience member) · Lauren Edmonds (intro voice or played clip) · Ishan Singh (guest) · Miles (audience member) · JP (audience member) · Marc Loon (guest) · Henry (audience member) · Philip (audience member) · Jesse (audience member) · Mary (audience member) · Audience member (audience member) · Patti (audience member) · Megan (audience member)
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About the guests
Christian Convence
head · Privater Schule Convince · near Aachen in Germany
Family started the school in 2002 with four kids after his father resigned as a state headmaster in 1995; bought a 1927 monastery in 2004; now 150 students. Former German national diving team member; runs South Africa exchange programme.
In Christian's own words:
“So, and we, officially we, we are involved in this school since 2007. So I finished my degree in 2009, but I already started 2007 in some, lessons for, geography.”
“I was, in the national team of diving in Germany, and I was doing springboard, three meter springboard and ten meter platform.”
Marc Loon
Kairos School of Inquiry
Started Kairos School of Inquiry in 2011 with three children; first teaching job was an unpaid post in rural Rajasthan, India; met Marshall Rosenberg, whose nonviolent communication shapes the school's curriculum.
In Marc's own words:
“I'm Mark Loon, I'm from Kairos School of Inquiry and we started in 2011, so two years before you.”
“my first teaching job was an unpaid post in rural Rajasthan in India. And I loved it and it was the most incredible, inspiring space because basically I was totally free to teach and without curriculum, pressures and I was, I was very free to be a teacher.”
Guest details come from the published episode notes or the guest's own words in the episode.
Episode analysis
Analysis by AI, drawn only from this episode; every point links to the moment it rests on.
Host Gershom Aitchison of Edu Inc, a mainstream independent school in Fourways, Johannesburg writing the IEB for Grades 4 to 12 with small classes by design, talks with German school head Christian Convence about why small schools exist. Christian recounts his family's school from 1995 to a deliberate 150 students and explains how the German Abitur system lets his school give students a second chance. Two other small-school heads, Edu Inc students, teachers, parents and education consultants address objections about socialisation, sport and credentials. Gershom cites research arguing class size alone does not improve results without intentional pedagogy and culture, and closes by asking what a community would lose if its school disappeared.
Key ideas
- Christian says his school has capacity for about 350 students but deliberately stays at 150 so it can support each child as needed. [02:02]▸ [04:43]▸
- Gershom cites Stellenbosch and Gates Foundation research to argue small classes only work with a pedagogical backbone and an intentional culture. [29:39]▸ [29:51]▸ [30:36]▸ [30:59]▸
- Christian explains that because the Abitur is run and marked by government, students can fail internally and still progress, giving gymnasium dropouts a second chance. [13:21]▸ [14:03]▸
- Students describe repeating a grade to close knowledge gaps and then doing well academically. [37:15]▸ [37:38]▸ [41:19]▸
- Students and Gershom argue that fewer, closer friendships across grades force pupils to resolve conflict rather than walk away. [38:29]▸ [43:03]▸ [44:17]▸
- Ishan Singh presents Edu Inc's IQ, EQ and AQ trinity, arguing EQ and AQ can grow significantly and decide success beyond marks. [50:10]▸ [51:36]▸ [52:19]▸
- Lauren Edmonds and Marc Loon say small schools each follow a niche and are pushed to innovate because they are not replicas of big schools. [24:58]▸ [31:20]▸
- Gershom argues small schools must justify their existence through relevance, framed as what a community would lose if the school disappeared. [31:43]▸ [70:36]▸
Lessons
- Gershom suggests judging a small school by its pedagogy and culture, since research he cites shows reduced class size alone does not improve results. [29:51]▸ [30:59]▸
- Philip's experience suggests a trial week can reveal whether a child fits, even when the child initially refuses to go. [58:25]▸ [59:51]▸
- JP and Jesse's stories indicate that repeating a grade to close gaps can rebuild confidence and results. [37:38]▸ [41:19]▸
- Christian's tennis-player story shows a flexible school can let a high-level athlete train and still pass Matric as a plan B. [75:30]▸
- Gershom notes a small school that is not the right fit can recommend another school with confidence rather than being forced to take the child. [76:40]▸
Who it's for
Parents weighing a small private school, school heads and teachers in small independent schools, and professionals working with children's wellbeing who want first-hand voices from heads, students, teachers and parents on socialisation, sport, academics and school culture.
Facts stated in the episode
- Christian's father resigned as a state headmaster in 1995; the private school started in 2002 with four kids. [02:04]▸ [02:54]▸
- Christian's school has capacity for about 350 students but has 150. [04:43]▸
- Christian says German private schools can be up to 97 percent government funded. [06:41]▸
- Germany has sixteen provinces with sixteen school systems, according to Christian. [07:31]▸
- Gershom says the Gates Foundation put one point five billion into small schools in the US. [30:36]▸
- Gershom defines small schools as one class per grade and about 150 students, matching Dunbar's number. [17:22]▸
- About three hundred kids have travelled with Christian to South Africa across 22 or 23 exchanges. [68:17]▸
- Lauren Edmonds started her school in 2013 and takes no more than 20 children. [23:45]▸
Questions this episode answers
- Do children at small schools miss out on socialising?Students say no: Jesse describes a tight-knit class where problems are aired with a teacher, Miles says friendships are fewer but more authentic, and Gershom argues pupils learn to work through conflict instead of burning bridges. [37:15]▸ [38:29]▸ [43:03]▸ [44:17]▸
- Do smaller class sizes alone improve school results?Gershom cites Stellenbosch University research that reducing class size on its own does not, and Gates Foundation-funded small schools where results depended on the intentionality behind pedagogy and culture. [29:51]▸ [30:36]▸ [30:59]▸
- Why did Christian Convence's family start their own school in Germany?Christian says his father, a state headmaster for about 25 years, was frustrated at repeatedly closing good schools because of policy, so the family left the state system, starting with coaching and then a school in 2002. [02:02]▸ [02:04]▸ [02:54]▸ [08:51]▸
- Can a German student who failed at the gymnasium still get the Abitur?Christian says yes at his school: the Abitur is run by government, so internal results do not count and students who fail at the gymnasium can still prepare with his school and sit it. [13:21]▸ [14:03]▸
- What does IQ, EQ, AQ mean at Edu Inc?Ishan Singh calls it Edu Inc's holy trinity: IQ changes little over life, but EQ (the emotional intelligence to understand yourself and your impact on others) and AQ (the mental discipline to sit down and get the work done even when you don't feel like it) can grow significantly and determine success beyond distinctions. [50:10]▸ [51:36]▸ [52:19]▸
- Do small schools offer sport?Gershom calls the no-sport claim a fallacy, citing Miles's archery honours and a national record. Christian says German schools have no sport lessons because sport happens in clubs, and describes supporting a national-level tennis player. [45:49]▸ [75:30]▸
- Why are more small schools opening?Mary attributes it partly to politics in state education and a failure to provide a worthwhile education. Christian reports weekly applications from gymnasium students since last January. [21:13]▸ [54:26]▸
- What question should every small school be able to answer?Gershom poses it: if your school disappeared tomorrow, what would your community lose that no big school could replace? He says a school that cannot answer has no purpose. [31:43]▸ [70:36]▸
In their own words
Longer stretches of the conversation, word for word from the transcript, turn by turn.
Christian's family school origin story, 1995 to 150 students
Note (AI): The guest's full founding story: a father tired of closing schools, a coaching institution, four pupils, a 1927 monastery and a deliberate cap well below capacity.
Christian Convence, guest · [02:02]Yeah, how it starts our, started our journey. In 1995, my father more or less resigned from his position as a headmaster from state schools. He was, paid by government for twenty, yeah, twenty five years, and he was always busy to close down schools. So, and he was tired of it because he always took the future for the kids. That is why he said, no, I'm fed up …
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Christian Convence, guest · [02:02]Yeah, how it starts our, started our journey. In 1995, my father more or less resigned from his position as a headmaster from state schools. He was, paid by government for twenty, yeah, twenty five years, and he was always busy to close down schools. So, and he was tired of it because he always took the future for the kids. That is why he said, no, I'm fed up with it, so I want to do my own thing. So in the beginning, we were not a, private school. We have been a coaching institution. And, at the peak time, we had about 180 different schools in our region, and we supported around about 300 students, from these schools, from primary school up to high school, all type of, schools and, ages. And from this, of course, our, private school. We started in 2002. In total, it was four kids. So that was our, beginning. So we extended quite fast. after two more years, we had already 65 students, so we had to, find a new, accommodation for our school. So we bought in 2004 an old monastery that was built in 1927, and it was important, in history for, during the Second World War, because our village is right situated next to the border to Belgium, and it was the very first, spot of Germany. That was freed by the Allies. And in our region, that was the most intense battlefield for the Allies, Hürtgenwald. Everybody have heard about it, I think. Twenty thousand, more than twenty thousand, Allies died, in the battle against the German Nazis. But our monastery was at this time a hospital for German and Allied soldiers at the same time, and so it's a big history later on. It was a kindergarten, then it was, a kind of hospital, and then a station to give birth and all that stuff. so it's, lots of history in this, old building. When we bought it in 2004, and we kept it more or less like it was from the outside. Inside, of course, we had to swap it a little bit that the classes were perfect for our, ideas, because we have maximum 15 kids in one class, and it was tiny, rooms we had to extend a little bit, and then, we started, in 2005 already in this new building with, 65 kids. And then, later on in 2009, we already had about 100 students. It was too small, so we, extended our school that we, built up a new building right next to it. It's a modern one, and we use it now since 2010. So from then on, We have capacity of about three hundred fifty students, but, this is a goal we don't want to achieve. We want to have space. We want to be aware of that we, can support the kids how they need, and yeah, actual, actual, amount of students we have is one hundred fifty kids.
How the German Abitur gives struggling students a second chance
Note (AI): Explains why external government exams let Christian's school prepare students freely, including those who failed at the gymnasium, and lists the eight Abitur subjects.
Christian Convence, guest · [13:21]So that is a big advantage we have as a, private Ergänzungsschule, how it's called in our province, because we, our duty is to fulfill the curriculum and prepare the kids for the final exams in grade ten and grade thirteen. But the metric test will be run by government. So they are invited, they have to apply for this, final test. Then they are invited, they come to know …
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Christian Convence, guest · [13:21]So that is a big advantage we have as a, private Ergänzungsschule, how it's called in our province, because we, our duty is to fulfill the curriculum and prepare the kids for the final exams in grade ten and grade thirteen. But the metric test will be run by government. So they are invited, they have to apply for this, final test. Then they are invited, they come to know of the teachers who will, do the tests or will mark the test, be are not involved in the final results and so on. So the advantage is everything that happens in our school is not part of the metric So they can mess up, they can fail as much as they like, I just have to see a movement, and this is the flexibility we have, and this is also an advantage for some of the students who fail at the gymnasium, in Germany, and they can't go on, but they still have a chance to go on with us and still do the, the Abitur, so the Matric, and, this is the advantage we have, their flexibility, because we just prepare, they get the feedback, what is good, what is bad, where we have to work on, and where we need more time, or hopefully everything is running fine, and you go for it, and that's fine, because application for the Abitur will be one year in advance, so we have to apply for it, in the end of the school term, before that, just before the summer holidays, and then they are tested in eight subjects, it will be mathematics, German, English, history, compulsory, they have to do a second foreign language, we, support French and Spanish, and the Chinese have the chance to do, Chinese as a second foreign language, so that's the joker. And, then we also have, biology, physics, geo- geography, and social, economics. These are the subjects we, we are teaching it. So as a small school, I mean, we have a variety of, subjects, yeah, but, we have to concentrate, focus on some of them so that we, can support it, because two and a half years for metric, I tell you guys, is not a long time. You have to wake up.
Research: class size alone does not improve results
Note (AI): Gershom's worked argument citing Stellenbosch and Gates Foundation research that intentional pedagogy and culture, not size, make the difference, with Marc's point on innovation.
Gershom Aitchison, host · [29:39]It's interesting that that all of us are talking about not just being a small school for the sake of being a small school there's in in the research for this this article out of South Africa specifically a Stellenbosch University research saying that reducing class sizes on its own doesn't improve results. It's reducing the class sizes, having a specific pedagogical goal and, mindset in how you are going …
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Gershom Aitchison, host · [29:39]It's interesting that that all of us are talking about not just being a small school for the sake of being a small school there's in in the research for this this article out of South Africa specifically a Stellenbosch University research saying that reducing class sizes on its own doesn't improve results. It's reducing the class sizes, having a specific pedagogical goal and, mindset in how you are going to facilitate the curriculum, and then creating an intentional culture within your school, that being relationship-based, that being family-based, that being creating a space for kids to come to, in your case, the non, you know, the nonverbal, sorry, how did you articulate, nonviolent, communication, that creates the magic. If it just, and it was also, emphasized the, you know, the Gates Foundation put one point five billion into funding small schools in the US, and some of them had phenomenal results, you know, Bloom's Two Sigma results, you know, but there are other schools that didn't. They just stayed exactly the same, and the research, the research showed that it was because of the intention, intentionality behind the pedagogy and the culture of the school that made the difference. So starting a small school and people saying small numbers in classes are the res, what results in improvement is not the default. There has to be a culture and a pedagogical backbone to make that actually work. Yes, Marc.
Marc Loon, guest · [31:15]Gershom, I think there's, there's the thing about small schools that because we are not the norm, and in, because we're not just simply a, a replication of a big school that suddenly pops up, we are pushed to innovate. Yes. There, there is an intrinsic pressure in order to, to survive, in order to be distinctive and, and push ourselves to, to, to push the envelope.
Gershom Aitchison, host · [31:40]I'll take that one step further and say that We have to justify our relevance or our existence through our relevance, and that innovation is driven not just for the sake of innovation, it's driven to be remain relevant in society, and we are able to respond to society's needs better than what big schools are. Because we are more nimble, and our existence is about staying relevant for our families and communities, that's why the innovation takes place, not because we just want to innovate for the sake of innovation.
Jesse on repeating a grade and tight-knit classes
Note (AI): A student's unscripted account of regaining confidence, reaching the top of the class and learning to resolve conflict with teachers' help.
Jesse, audience member · [37:15]So, I joined the school in, say, grade five. And beforehand I had no confidence in myself the larger schools like completely destroyed me I didn't think I could do math my english was falling behind and I just didn't think that I was gonna make it through the school system and then I came to Edu Inc and Miss Day sat me down and was like you can go …
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Jesse, audience member · [37:15]So, I joined the school in, say, grade five. And beforehand I had no confidence in myself the larger schools like completely destroyed me I didn't think I could do math my english was falling behind and I just didn't think that I was gonna make it through the school system and then I came to Edu Inc and Miss Day sat me down and was like you can go back a grade and you're gonna do well or you're gonna struggle through but either way you're gonna make it and after that I was like well I'll go back a grade went back a grade and well now I I do very well you could say top of the class but and then as for the like socializing I think small schools are So much better because you hang out with a bunch of people that you might not necessarily hang out with if you were anywhere else. And you're put into these situations, like I'm put into a class of some pretty crazy people, but we all get along and we all work things out amongst each other and we're incredibly tightly knit and it causes a very tight bond and any problems that we have, we can always sit down with a teacher and just air it out where in a public school you might just be told like, I don't know, go outside, if you keep doing this, we're going to have to send you to detention or you're going to have to leave the school, but like here we can just air out our concerns and have a civil discussion.
Ishan Singh on teaching and the IQ, EQ, AQ trinity
Note (AI): A teacher explains adapting each lesson to the learners and Edu Inc's IQ, EQ and AQ framework for success beyond marks.
Ishan Singh, guest · [50:10]Teaching in a small school is not, it's not about the teacher's enjoyment of the curriculum. It's about finding ways every day or you know every time you teach a topic, finding different ways of presenting that so that it's meaningful to the learner. And you you could teach the same topic several times, but each time you're doing it, it's in an entirely different way. And so it's, it …
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Ishan Singh, guest · [50:10]Teaching in a small school is not, it's not about the teacher's enjoyment of the curriculum. It's about finding ways every day or you know every time you teach a topic, finding different ways of presenting that so that it's meaningful to the learner. And you you could teach the same topic several times, but each time you're doing it, it's in an entirely different way. And so it's, it doesn't become like stale. You know, you're finding different ways because the group of kids that you're teaching are completely different and have different needs. So it's not, it's not about the teacher just putting on the show. It's really directed to the learners, which is then beneficial to you as a teacher in terms of your pedagogy, and parallel to that, you as a teacher in terms of your ability to assess, you know, which I think are two different things. Teaching almost like the ability to convey it, but then assessing, getting that feedback back to you. So academically, it's, you know, it's an enjoyable experience. And then the second thing is, you know, a phrase or a concept that I use almost daily in conversations is what I refer to as our holy trinity here at Edu Inc. It's the, you know, the IQ, EQ, AQ. And we refer to it so often. It's part of our, one of our values and part of our daily conversations. everyone has their IQ. And you might be able to change that by a few points in the course of your lifetime, but your Q and A Q you can change or increase significantly. And a child may get nine distinctions and then go on to university like you said and struggle because of the underdeveloped E Q and A Q. In a small school like Edu Inc, we can put in enough time and effort into developing the E Q and A Q so that kids leave regardless of what the I Q is, they will be successful in whatever they choose to do. And I think that's, that's reassuring. You know, if you have some massive I Q, good for you. But without that strong, like tractor wheels, of I Q, E Q and A Q supporting you, that's not going to just translate into success. And in a space like this, we can put in, put in the, the time and effort into that.
A parent's two trial-week stories
Note (AI): A parent describes both children's trial weeks, including a daughter who refused to attend then loved it, and credits the mentorship approach.
Philip, audience member · [58:25]So when our son came from remedial education in grade four to Edu Inc, we we were just looking at a school with small classes, simple. And Gershom said, send him on a trial week. So anyway, he came for a trial week. Jesse was his mentor, mentor I think. And this child cried the whole day. He wouldn't let me go. Eventually Gershom said, just get out of here. …
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Philip, audience member · [58:25]So when our son came from remedial education in grade four to Edu Inc, we we were just looking at a school with small classes, simple. And Gershom said, send him on a trial week. So anyway, he came for a trial week. Jesse was his mentor, mentor I think. And this child cried the whole day. He wouldn't let me go. Eventually Gershom said, just get out of here. Come fetch him at two fifteen. Came to fetch him at two fifteen. He was the happiest kid I've ever met. And I could, and I don't know what it was, but it, and I'll come back to figuring out what it was later. Then he's been here for four years and he's been very content. He's, he's had his issues, but he's fitted in and he's happy to come to school. Then our daughter went through a bad patch at college, a bit of bullying that was going on at the college she was at, I'm not going to mention names, and, anyway, I contacted Gershom, he said, let her come and do a trial week. But before the trial week was offered to her, Megan and I had spoken to her in detail about, coming to Edu Inc with her brother, and she said, I would rather die than come to my brother's school. I will not go to Edu Inc. Anyway, she came for the trial week, and I can't remember who her mentor was, but, come the end of the day, she absolutely loved it, and she went back, and now she's been there for over two months. And the only thing I can, like, when I say I can't put my finger on it, Is that the school offers a mentorship approach. So like you mentored our son, someone mentored Jamie, they just got made to feel comfortable and accepted, which I don't think they got anywhere else really.
Quotes
“they know I I'm in my school from seven to seven and they just sit and join and have a coffee with me”
“I was a mom, and I just felt the system was letting me down over and over again, and eventually I said, never mind, I'll do it myself.”
“I held the book up to, in my, in front of me and I said, this book is gonna change my life.”
“more authentic relationships than just the bare superficial, oh, your friend number 200 of 3,000.”
“without that strong, like tractor wheels, of I Q, E Q and A Q supporting you, that's not going to just translate into success.”
“Big schools, small schools, it's just about being different. It it can never be the versus.”
“I would rather die than come to my brother's school.”
“I'm looking for happy children, and my two children are happy. They can't wait to come to school.”
“We don't care just how much water you've got in the dam, but can you access that water through being able to apply yourself and work hard”
“it's not an issue of size of a school to get friends, and relationship. It's a issue of, try it.”
“if your school disappeared tomorrow, what would your community lose that no big school could replace?”
What was said, by topic
Why small schools exist
“In 1995, my father more or less resigned from his position as a headmaster from state schools. He was, paid by government for twenty, yeah, twenty five years, and he was always busy to close down schools.”
“We started in 2002. In total, it was four kids. So that was our, beginning. So we extended quite fast. after two more years, we had already 65 students, so we had to, find a new, accommodation for our school.”
“So, and we, officially we, we are involved in this school since 2007. So I finished my degree in 2009, but I already started 2007 in some, lessons for, geography.”
“we just saw how tiring it was for my dad, and he was so frustrated, that every time he was running a good, school, he had to close it down because of policy.”
“we also started in the extra lesson space. you know, we started with Kip McGrath, and we had two centers, and we started in 2007 with them and built it up, and it was through the parents saying, will you please, you know, teach my kids, they're learning more with you in 80 minutes.”
“And German curriculum is a great curriculum, but the system fails. And it's, as you talk about processes and politics and things like that, it chases teachers out, it causes heads to make decisions based on finances instead of the best interests of the students,”
“my name is Lauren Edmonds, I started a school in 2013. We are a very small school, we, I don't take more than 20 kids in the entire school. We are very specialized and niche in terms of neurodiversity.”
“I think that's what the power of small schools is the nicheness of of each school that we don't model each other we we have an avenue and a path”
“I get a lot of children who come to me they're they're broken, their self-esteem has been broken by the system. Not deliberately, but it happens that way.”
“I'm Mark Loon, I'm from Kairos School of Inquiry and we started in 2011, so two years before you.”
“one of the things that stands out in small school spaces is the passion of the owner-teachers starting those schools, where, where an owner and, the people around him, her are in that space.”
“I think some of that is driven currently by our, you know, the, the politics. In terms of state education, and to an extent on, on, in some cases, a, a failure to provide what is considered to be a really good worthwhile education.”
Relationships and community
“So from then on, We have capacity of about three hundred fifty students, but, this is a goal we don't want to achieve. We want to have space. We want to be aware of that we, can support the kids how they need, and yeah, actual, actual, amount of students we have is one hundred fifty kids.”
“Small schools are defined as one class per grade and plus minus 150 students. And it's interesting because that's Dunbar's number,”
“So some of the kids at our school who are preparing for the Abitur, they stay after the normal classes a longer period because they know I I'm in my school from seven to seven and they just sit and join and have a coffee with me”
“and then I came to Edu Inc and Miss Day sat me down and was like you can go back a grade and you're gonna do well or you're gonna struggle through but either way you're gonna make it and after that I was like well I'll go back a grade went back a grade and well now I I do very well you could say top of the class”
“I think that's why I love Edu Inc, because I can go to a teacher if I have a problem. I can, I can go for extra lessons, and I have been doing really, really well in Edu Inc than what I've been doing in other schools.”
“Originally I was in grade ten, but then I got told I was going to have to go back to grade nine, because there were a lot of gaps in my knowledge. And I think that helped me tremendously as at the end of grade nine, I got a seventy percent average,”
“The idea of going from a space of one-on-one teaching or tutoring for seven years to a space of twenty or thirty where every child was just a number, it was a ludicrous idea. I had no intention of going into that. But Edu Inc was the, you know, the classes of ten where I could know every single student.”
“she said, I would rather die than come to my brother's school. I will not go to Edu Inc. Anyway, she came for the trial week, and I can't remember who her mentor was, but, come the end of the day, she absolutely loved it,”
“Is that the school offers a mentorship approach. So like you mentored our son, someone mentored Jamie, they just got made to feel comfortable and accepted, which I don't think they got anywhere else really.”
“Twenty six children in my class, I'm looking for happy children, and my two children are happy. They can't wait to come to school.”
“it came out in one of the, the studies in Australia when they were closing small schools and fitting them into big ones, is that parental involvement collapsed overnight.”
German school system
“Even when it's called private school, it's runs by, a person or run by, by church mainly, it's paid up to ninety-seven percent, from government by taxes.”
“We can decide all things that is important to run a good school, decide which teacher we will take, decide which kid can come or has to leave because it's not fitting in.”
“Because in Germany, we have sixteen different provinces, sixteen different school systems, all the province has their own rules for that. It's more, more difficult to change from one province to another province than going from Germany to South Africa to, to find a school.”
“So they can mess up, they can fail as much as they like, I just have to see a movement, and this is the flexibility we have, and this is also an advantage for some of the students who fail at the gymnasium, in Germany, and they can't go on, but they still have a chance to go on with us and still do the, the Abitur,”
“And since last year January, every week at least two or three, applications come through, and it's all gymnasium, and this is a high class education system in Germany.”
Intentional pedagogy and culture
“my first teaching job was an unpaid post in rural Rajasthan in India. And I loved it and it was the most incredible, inspiring space because basically I was totally free to teach and without curriculum, pressures and I was, I was very free to be a teacher.”
“I also met Marshall Rosenberg who introduced me to the idea of a nonviolent communication and that's I think the essence of our influence in our school the curriculum is rooted in an idea that that there is a way of communicating to each other teacher to teacher and teacher to child and child to child”
“a Stellenbosch University research saying that reducing class sizes on its own doesn't improve results. It's reducing the class sizes, having a specific pedagogical goal and, mindset in how you are going to facilitate the curriculum, and then creating an intentional culture within your school,”
“the Gates Foundation put one point five billion into funding small schools in the US, and some of them had phenomenal results, you know, Bloom's Two Sigma results, you know, but there are other schools that didn't.”
“So starting a small school and people saying small numbers in classes are the res, what results in improvement is not the default. There has to be a culture and a pedagogical backbone to make that actually work.”
“Teaching in a small school is not, it's not about the teacher's enjoyment of the curriculum. It's about finding ways every day or you know every time you teach a topic, finding different ways of presenting that so that it's meaningful to the learner.”
School relevance
“because we're not just simply a, a replication of a big school that suddenly pops up, we are pushed to innovate.”
“We have to justify our relevance or our existence through our relevance, and that innovation is driven not just for the sake of innovation, it's driven to be remain relevant in society,”
“if the child doesn't in the trial week find a place where it can fit and is not the right place, we are not forced to take the child. We can say, I do know somebody who I can recommend who is exactly what you need,”
Socialisation and sport myths
“he said he struggled a lot because there was big fights, and also, we all often hear the word mobbing. So, so the intense nagging of children, between each other, and they're not stopping.”
“any problems that we have, we can always sit down with a teacher and just air it out where in a public school you might just be told like, I don't know, go outside,”
“With regards to the social aspect, you certainly make fewer friendships. However, the friendships that you do make are a lot more meaningful, and I would almost say more authentic relationships than just the bare superficial, oh, your friend number 200 of 3,000.”
“You can't just burn bridges and move on to the next friend group. You know, if there's a real issue, you have to learn to work on it, and I think that's a life skill that's very important.”
“Miles sitting there with five different honors for archery and scouts and academics holding a national record or two for archery.”
“She has been at our school for one week, joined the class, and then she was one week off. She got the exercises she made in between the training and sent it to us, and then it's done. And it worked out perfectly. She passed Matric,”
IQ, EQ and AQ
“everyone has their IQ. And you might be able to change that by a few points in the course of your lifetime, but your Q and A Q you can change or increase significantly. And a child may get nine distinctions and then go on to university like you said and struggle because of the underdeveloped E Q and A Q.”
Exchange programmes
“I was, in the national team of diving in Germany, and I was doing springboard, three meter springboard and ten meter platform.”
“Meanwhile, about three hundred kids come with me to South Africa. So, it's now, I think, the 22nd, 23rd, exchange, down to South Africa in total.”
Episode notes (as published)
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A German micro-school head on family, purpose and intentional education This fireside conversation is for parents, psychologists and anyone working with children's wellbeing who is questioning whether a small or micro school is a legitimate choice rather than a compromise. Christian Convence, head of a family-run micro school near Aachen in Germany, joins fellow small-school head, Gershom Aitchison, from South Africa to explain why their schools exist, what drives families toward them, and what children actually gain in a small, intentionally designed learning environment. Christian traces his school's origins from 1995, when his father resigned from closing down state schools, through a 2004 monastery purchase and steady growth to a deliberate cap of 150 students. He explains the German Abitur system, how international students from China navigate it, and why his school's flexibility to prepare students without being bound by internal grading gives struggling learners a genuine second chance. The episode directly tackles the three most common objections to small schools: poor socialisation, lack of sport, and obscure credentials. Four students, Jesse, Paola, JP and Miles, speak unscripted about being academically rebuilt, forming authentic multi-grade friendships, and learning to resolve conflict rather than avoid it. Parent Philip shares the story of his daughter who said she would rather die than attend her brother's small school, and who then loved it within a day. Teachers and education consultants add evidence from Australian research on parental involvement collapse when small schools are merged, Stellenbosch University research on class size versus intentional pedagogy, the Gates Foundation's one-and-a-half-billion-dollar small-school study, and Bloom's Two Sigma findings. Teacher Ishan Singh introduces the IQ, EQ and AQ framework used daily at Edu Inc, arguing that emotional intelligence and application quotient are the real predictors of university and life success. The conversation closes with a sharp strategic question every small school must be able to answer: if your school disappeared tomorrow, what would your community lose that no large school could replace? For parents weighing a small private school, this episode provides honest voices from inside the model and a confident, evidence-rich counter-narrative to every standard objection. Connect with Marc Loon on LinkedIn · Bloom's Two Sigma Problem - original research overview · Marshall Rosenberg - Nonviolent Communication · RWTH Aachen University - Germany's elite technical university · Edu Inc website · Facebook (Public) · Facebook (closed group) · Twitter (closed group) · YouTube · Review us on Google
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